where and how do you spray ether??
we have three cars -- one with cummins M-11 ---- on with cat c-12 and one with detroit 11.1
we do not pull heavy loads so these lower hp motors are fine for us
our detroit 11.1 is the worst for starting in cold weather -- when it is 15 degrees or colder we have to plug it in to start it or use ether.
the cummins and cat start ok down to about 5 degrees
we dont always have access to an electrical plug so we have to use ether --- we have been spraying the filter element to start our cars ---- what are you guys doing or what is the correct procedure????
about what temperature does your car start giving you trouble and what motor are you running???
You can use it, but use it very sparingly. My personal preference is to spin the motor over a little bit before ethering, and if it isn't starting in 8-10 seconds or so, then I'll stop, hit it with a very small snort of ether, and then spin it again. Seems to work every time for me. But, if your car uses an electric grid heater on the intake manifold like the smaller Cummins do in the Dodge's, don't use any ether at any time. It can make a very loud and expensive boom. Too much ether can lead to vapor locking the engine as well. Best choice is to figure out a way to get them plugged in and warmed up. Ether works, but it's tricky stuff and harmful if misused. My 02
To avoid engine damage spray the ether into a large rag and put the rag over the air cleaner. This way a little ether gets into the engine pre-mixed with air. All engines are different. I once had 8 cars,all with 400 Cummins. 7 of them would fire right up down to 20 below. You could walk in front of the eighth one with an ice cream cone in August and it would get balky about starting.
I have one even better than that. In the NAvy, out in the Mojave desert I used to run an old construction type tractor used for working on aircraft arresting gear. HAd an old 335 Cummins in it. In August in the Mojave desert, you couldn't get that monster to fire without blowing at least half a can of ether through it. Then it would smoke so much the base fire dept would respond. geared low, had plenty of power though. Most miserable diesel I think I have ever worked with. And it only reinforced my already bad feelings about the old 335's.
When do you spray ether?
Why, in March or April. That's when the Ether Bunny comes.
Starting fluid has oil mixed with it so try not to spray directly on air filter......
on a frieghtliner( FLD or Classic) spray the cowl between the windshields ....
all air cleaner housings have a drain on the bottom usally has a rubber boot on it open boot and spray.....
How much.......Do you want the way to start it at -20 or the text book way......
if you have 2 pepole have one turn engine over and spray....one just spray and crank......if it won't start and it feels like the motor is locking up its either locked (takes a lot ) walk away for 30 min crank if it turns over easy repeat..... the amount to spray depends on engine and its mood...... the best way to explain how much is about the amout of deoderant you would spray under one arm.......I have used a whole can to start 1 cari ( over a few hrs ) damn R model macks......even sat on the hood and sprayed eithe to keep a gelled car running to get to the shop........
yes I live in Louisiana.......Spent most of my life in St.Louis many cold days below 0 working on frozen cars
WD 40 will work if you are afraid of starting fluid but you must remove the air filter first and spray about double the amount and directly into the intake tube
In using ether have a helper.
Some one to crank the engine while you spay a very short spritz then again when needed. You may need to spritz it 3 or 4 times DO NOT SOAK THE FILTER ELEMENT.
If you really want to do it right......Remove a plug (there are some) on the inteake manifold and spray the ether directly into the manifold while turning the engine. Takes 2 people to do it that way.
Or do as we do in the cold country, install ether assists on the cars and you can give it a measured shot right from the drivers seat.
Diesels get addicted to ether if you use it enough. WD-40 works better-believe it or not.
You do know if the engine needs ether to start means the engine is worn out. Any of the guys I work for would go balistic on you if you use ether on their equipment because a engine does become a ether pig as it causes a partial dry start. Eventually the engine needs either to start everytime once it needs that your looking at a engine rebuild sooner than you planned.
The best way to start a car with ether is with two people one person to start the car and the other person to spray the either around the intake of the breather. You don't want to squirt directly into the filter housing but in the air around the intake so it will suck the vapour in.
If you squirt too much into the intake you will get hammering and knocking that causes bent valves and damage.
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