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Small Cargo Vans (FedEx Custom Critical, etc.)

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From time to time, I see little (Ford Econoline, GMC Savanna, Chevy Express) cargo vans which are leased to FedEx Custom Critical, ConWay Now, Panther II, etc., etc. I have seen them on I-95, I-64 and I-295; as well as sometimes seeing them parked at car stops.
I know that there must be a large enough market for small "hot" loads to be profitable, but where do the drivers/owners sleep? If you are away from home for several days, do the companies expect you to foot the bill for a hotel? The bigger units (straight cars and OTR tractors) have sleeper berths, but I have not seen an Econoline with a bunk recently.
Also, what about layovers? Isn't there two or three days of "down" time with these companies?

Flying Dutchman; an inquiring mind which wants to know

Panther II has an advertisement in today's Richmond Times-Dispatch. They are hiring van, straight car and tractor-trailer drivers. Is it worth it?


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Look in the Expedited caring Forum, even though it is a bit dead in there.

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Last time I was in Ft. Pierce FL, I was out walking the dog and seen one of these vans (can't remember the name on the side) parked over in the 4 wheeler area of the Flying J.
The guy had the side door open and had a small grill out, cooking his dinner.
As I passed by, I could see that he had a army cot and a small 'living area' set up inside.

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You can get a cargo van equipped with a sleeper area behind the driver box.
Since you're not required to carry a log book, it doesn't have to meet the requirements for one.
Perhaps Monty will show up and answer that question better as I believe he drives a "Dodge Sprinter" which is a cargo van.

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Yep .. those vans have no sleepers, many have "made do",
I personally purchased the Sprinter so I could have a sleeper conversion placed in it. 70" sleeper with bed, fridge, microwave, tv and standing up, walking around room.
The freight does indeed pay well enough for the vans to make money. And, no, the company pays for nothing. You are, as all others, an owner operator and bear all expenses.
Most of the expediters, at this time, are not looking for vans. There are plenty of them out there. Should you get the itch, I suggest you check Landstar Express America against all the others.

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A) How much is "well enough?" We need to know.

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Ol' nosey is at it again. None of your friggen business Chad.
Chad, I swear to God that if you had a brain you'd sit on the floor and play with it.
Why can't you just accept the fact that what other people make is none of you business.

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Ok Chad, I'll let you in on the revenue, but don't go spreading it around.
$100 per mile, 1500 mile per week average. These guys want to keep it quiet, so no one comes along and undercuts them.

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Thanks for the info, Monty. I figured you (of all people) would know about that type of freight. I hope your Sprinter works out well.
When I left FedEx Ground last year, they had just gotten in a few of the Freightliner Sprinters at the nearby FedEx Express terminal. They were not for use there, but they drove them through our area (for food and fuel?) on their way north to another state.
Word has it they are the best thing for local deliveries when a "normal" step van is just a bit too big. The five-cylinder diesel is more economical than the 5.9 Cummins I-6 or the 7.3 (Powerstroke) Navistar V-8, too.
Anyway, I called Panther II today. They had an ad in our local paper for cargo vans, straight cars and tractor-trailers. The pay did not sound bad, but the recruiter said their average time out was 10 to 14 days. Sorry, but that just won't work. I don't see my son often enough as it is, and he is only four miles away.
I still have my CDL and am checking into some Class B work with a straight car (local). I don't think it is worth it to net an extra $150 to $200 a week if you have to live on the road and eat all of your meals out and not sleep in your own bed.

Flying Dutchman; thanks all of you for the information

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FD....
I checked out Panther as well.
They pay cargo van drivers 77cpm.
Straight cars..$1.10 and tractors $1.20.
At least thats what I got from them.

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Right after I got the Sprinter I mentioned my PERSONAL goal was for .75 a mile for ALL miles. Had a bit of a time getting the numbers up, learning freight lanes and agents, but last report was just about 1.00 for ALL miles.
Now how many miles is ran depends on individual preferences and freight available. With Landstar, there is no need to be out anymore than you wish, only your personal preferences and financial needs dictate that.
No forced dispatch, and often doubling loading which brings the revenue, at times, to $3-4 a mile. That really helps knock the overall average up, to cover the deadhead miles, and yea, I have a bunch of them!
The Sprinter now has 65,000 miles on it, and is still averaging 20mpg, and the tires are still at 50%.
I opt for the syntethic oil, so service every 12,000 miles is about $70.00.
I am now in process of getting bids to further modify it to make the distance between the wheel well to be 58" instead of the current 44", (this was also a modification).
This van can haul 4,000 pounds, legally, and still not ruin the wheel seals, as some do with their 4 tire versions. It also has a different pull ratio for the 15" tires, vs 16" on the 4 wheel version. Makes it a strong puller on the hills.
5 speed automatic, (5th being overdrive), and the 5cyl Mercedes diesel, 170hp, almost 300 pounds of torque seem to make it a winner .. watch me fly by someday!

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If you would like to stay local most of the time, you could check with a company named EGL. They do mostly local p&d but have hot shots come up all the time.
I am signed on with them but do mostly Hot shots. The local guys in Cincinnasty gross around 2200 / 2500 per week with a 26' box car five to five and a half days a week.

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Monty! Can you please explain how you will modify the space from the present 44" to 58" between the rear wheels?
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