Best Companies for Non-Forced Dispatch
Other than Landstar, What are some of the better companies to lease to that have non-forced dispatch and hometime anytime?
Be Safe Ya'll
I really cant think of a single "non-forced" company with the exception of Landstar and maybe Jones Motor. With Landstar and Jones you are basically working with agents and you are actually on your own.
In years gone by, there were quite a few to choose from, but not now. They might advertise a
"non-forced dispatch", but if you refuse a load, they are going to make you pay in one way or another.
What has happened over the years, most companies have adopted a mileage scale instead of a percentage. Under percentage an owner-operator had some leverage to refuse the load, but under mileage the response from the company is that it all pays the same. And also, most of the union companies at one time had a "special commodity" division and operated under the Teamsters contract, but you know how that has gone.
Just a grouchy old man.
"The average dog is a nicer person than the average person"-Andy Rooney
First off, Landstar could/and should be a good move, if you are careful (with money). However, I noticed you don't have a heck of a lot of experience, so the only way to work with Landstar might be to get your own authority and then become a "broker carrier." It's basically the same as leasing to them, except now you're getting more money. (will explain later)
The real question is why do want your own car and lease it and your services to a company?
Could you please tell us more about your personal situation: specifically why are you leaning towards owning and subcontracting to a carrier. In addition, I noticed your location is Kentucky. This may or may not be a good thing in general as far as getting home. Could you reveal exactly where in KY you are at? It may not be a good thing as it relates to the information I am about to divulge.
If you must "take the plunge," then I can state with authority that JEVIC is not a bad deal. This is really the only company I have ever leased (I prefer the term sub-contracted) to. Therefore it is the only company I can really comment on. I now run under my own authority. It is an LTL company, which is where the money comes from. Being that it is an LTL carrier, you will be the line-hauldriver at night, as well as the day-time delivery or peddle driver during the day. This is where all the money comes from. You get $25 per delivery. You get $25 for the first pickup, $35 for the second and $45 for every one after that. You might average 10 deliveries and 5 pickups per week. There's more if you want to hussle. Mileage rate is .85 cpm all miles, but they use Rand-McNally or some other $hit so you're going to get hosed by about 15% on mileage. However they do pay fuel surcharge on all miles based on weekly averages. You can check their website as they have it listed in detail. So if the average price of diesel is $1.50, the mileage rate is actually .92 cpm. I think I was getting .91 cpm just before I split. You will get close to 3000 or achieve 3000 per week, more if you want to hussle. Jevic has more freight than drivers now.
Stong points about Jevic:
1) they have on-site scales at every terminal. This is very convenient as well as a massive time saver. The only exception is L.A. (fontana) these scales are located a few blocks away.
2)Their fuel card is worth .06 cents off the sign price at all flying J's. That's not bad, folks.
3)National breakdown/maintenance accounts.
4)No preference over company cars: First in, first out regardless if there are 10 company cars waiting for a load.
5) 99.9% no touch. If it's not on pallets, Jevic doesn't want it.
Bad points about jevic:
1)Sometimes they don't give you enough time to get there. Or they'll just barely give you just enough time to get there. This means you have to haul butt to make it there and then make the deliveries during the day. When do you sleep?
2)They don't pay for OH turnpike unless emergency. Rt. 30 with an 80,000 car is not good. Also they don't pay NJ/NY metropolitan area tolls--baffling to say the least as they have two major terminals in the area.
3)Many of their dispatchers have attitudes which are completely un-nessary. Especially that little (edited) Darell in Atlanta. This is somewhat baffling to me.
Now, some may state you can't make it sub-contracting (leasing on to) a carrier. I'd have to respectfully disagree, as I made good bread. I've got a friend who's been leased to them for 5.5 years. He has several houses, a nice extended cab pickup, two tractors and has raised a child. So, obviously jevic can't be all that bad.
There is a very large man named Gilbraltar who paid aprox $100,000 cash for a red classic xl and then promptly leased on to Jevic running out of the Houston terminal which is a dump but does have freight coming in and out. He was a company driver for jevic previously. If you bump into him on the highway (he runs mainly south) talk to him. He'll give you the straight poop. I am quite baffled by his actions, as if I had $100,000 cash, I most certainly would not have spent it on a car. My friend also runs a red classic xl. He'll also give you the straight poop. He runs all over the place.
Talk to Hugo or Carmine in recruiting--they are good people and won't BS you.
Look at Colonial out of Knoxville Ten. They have non forced disp. You can pick your loads from what they have. They do Van and ref. Also Colonial out of St .Louis takes only a few select owners. They are not the same company as the Knoxville Colonial. They only run the Eastern and Mid Western 36 states.
I live in Louisville, KY. The Main reason why I want to buy car and lease it is so I can control my hometime. I want to be able to come home when I want to. Even if I was just there yesterday.
There are other reasons of course. But this is the main one.
Thanks for everyones post.
But please continue the thread
Be Safe Ya'll
AG, from observing your website on your trials and tribulations of being a rookie driver, it is quite obvious that you, unlike myself, are a highly intelligent individual.
Therefore, it baffles me as to why you would want to purchase a car mainly for hometime purposes.
1)Why not try local?
a)Is there any possiblity you could re-locate so as to maximize your chances of procuring a local gig?
b) At the risk of blaspheme, I would even suggest becoming a package car driver for UPS. Yes, you will too tired to move at the end of the day--but you'll be home everyday, plus the money is o.k.
2)In comparing Co driver vs. contractor. Yes, as a contractor you will be able to go home any damn time you please, but this means no income generated--not good when you have a car payment. We need to investigate companies that can get you home. This is not an absoulute remedy for the situation, rather it is a more exhaustive search to insure we are making the best overall decision.
Could you tell us a little more about your other reasons and of your situation(s)? If you prefer, feel free to (F)email me.
Originally I live in Louisville, KY. The Main reason why I want to buy car and lease it is so I can control my hometime. I want to be able to come home when I want to. Even if I was just there yesterday.
Aggavation. I do not know how to break it to ya. You are looking at really being gone more as a Owner op. As a lease op you will be gone even more in most cases. See that car sitting in the drive way still gets paid for even when it dosn't work. Insurance, car payments, computer payments and so on do not stop. It is VERY possible to leave out of the house in the red. Say you lease a car and pay 300 a week for it. You stay home for a week. You are starting out in the red 300 bucks. You also will owe 300 more in a week. Do some real research. Go talk to a certified finacial planner. This is what I did a few years ago. I am glade I did. My husband and I paid him to look at what we had going. He lined us out. Told us what we needed to do. He hooked us up with a good accountant. We were just getting started in this and had little info. Call a local planner or one of the national companies. The guy we used was from Jones and Company. You can sit there and play with the numbers all you want. You can also make those numbers say what you are looking for. Let some one else see ALL your numbers and let them tell you what THEY think. Why not? Drivers amaze me. They will pay $70,000 for a car, but will not pay $250 for a good business plan. Go figure.
This would probably shock everybody. But I have a local gig right now. 4 days a week. 11 hrs a day. 3 days off
I always said if i were to go back on the road it would be as an o/o.
car wont be sitting, but when family calls, i would need to go home, if needed to be. Dont want to here from dispatcher, "i have to wait two weeks." from dispatchers.
I also did work for Fedex Ground. Never UPS but its the same. Your humpin' non stop all day. Not even time for lunch. Thats why they always have the fast walk or sometimes run.
If you read the aggavation car journal, it is old. It started in feb 2002 and ended when I ended training. The website is down now, I think
Since then, my experience has increased to 1yr and 4 months.
If I buy a car, I wont have a big car payment, because down payment will be very large.
The road is calling me. I just want to go back but this time have a little more control.
Be Safe Ya'll
Back to the original question.
All of the companies that pay on % and you pull your own trailer let yo do as you please. The problem with the per mile carriers and their trailers is what they want you to do with their trailer when you go home. You can take off when you want but they might want their trailer dropped 200 miles from your home.
Besides Landstar try, Mercer, Jones, Universal Am-Can,TEI, Wagoners, Lonestar, Bennett, Greentree,Ace, Mawson,Fikes, some are better than others, but what matters is what works for you.
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In order to further mindmeld with you, I must ask deeper questions as well as offer some further advice/opinions.
(I would prefer to use (F)email from now on--don't want anyone to think we have a thing for each other!)
My opinion is shelling out beaucoup loot on a car because of love for the road and control of hometime is illogical as well as financially disasterous. These are two conflicting/condradictary wants and needs: In order to make money in long-haul caring, you must stay away from home.
REMEMBER: At this point, you are ahead of the game. caring does not owe you anything. Let's keep it that way.
In order to further scrutinize your needs, I must assign a few questions:
A)Will the "calling of the road" be satisfied with any vehicle? Or must it be with a car?
B)Will a dedicated route answer "the calling of the road?" In this mannor, your hometime will be predictable and consistent. Or do you need 48 state unpredicability to satisfy "the call?"
These questions can lead to the following strategies:
1)I want you to investigate this one methodically, vigorously, thouroughly, and with full due dilligence:
Look into delivering tractors and/or motorhomes with companies that allow you to tow your own car behind it. The rationale here is, this should definitely satisfy "the calling of the road" and be economically feasible and satisfy your need to get home. As soon as you deliver the tractor (they are often new-- another plus), you simply hop in the car and book towards home--no stupid scales, no 10 hour restriction, low fuel cost, low travel expenses, low overhead.
If you were to bob-tail back home in your tractor, let's just say for argument's sake from L.A., we are talking mondo fuel costs (even if you can manage 8 mpg), scales (don't even think about logging the trip as off-duty), 10 hour driving restriction, not to mention the cost of the tractor itself. Also this method is slower than car.
In other words the plan of buying a tractor and leasing generally isn't feasible if you want the flexibilty to be able to deadhead home at the drop of a hat. Whereas the above mentioned plan is very likely feasible.
I once considered doing this, and after crunching the numbers, I found I would make no less than what a regular OTR gig would pay. But, this was a few years ago, so you need to do yourself a big, serious favor and check this route out thouroughly before you make the final decision of buying a car and then leasing on.
I think some companies in this business are, but not limited to: Mamo, Coliron, and Driveaway USA. HINT Driveaway USA is a 100% female run company--OOH LA LA! There are other companies.
A good resource is on this business is:
2)Will part-time OTR work for you? Celedon and Roehl offer 7 on 7 off type programs--you work one week, get the next week off etc.
The way I see it is: you are Adam , the calling of the road is the snake, and that new-shiny car is, of course the apple.
What will you do, what will you do?
My first car was a used 1995 International Cabover from the Wal-Mart fleet. I paid cash for it, and it was very reliable during the two years I owned it. I was able to go home when I wanted to, and take off as much time as I wanted or needed to.
Another thing about buying a car that many fail to think about is the maintenance. It's best to have mechanical knowledge of a car and be able to do as much work as possible on your own. This will save you a lot of money, as shop rates are becoming astronomical, and it can sometimes be a few days just between the time your car is dropped off at the shop until they call you wiith a repair estimate. It will be in there longer if parts need to be ordered. Freightliner dealers are thw worst about this! I do roughly about 90% of my own work, being an ex- Diesel Technician.
Not meaning to bust your bubble, but wasn't the thread "Best Companies for Non-Forced Dispatch"!
Jevic being an LTL company would have a forced dispatch system, at least all of the LTLs I know do!
Just wanted to point that out!
The LTLs will be your better paying companies, but will also involve more extra work to make that extra money along with a forced dispatch system!
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Jevic wasn't forced dispatch when I was there.
Not for subcontractors (Independent contractors[leasers]), at least.
Sammons caring out of Missoula, MT. is a company that doesn't run a forced dispatch. O/O's obviously, but the company drivers aren't on a forced dispatch either.
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